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		<title>By: prince namor</title>
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		<dc:creator>prince namor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not just America but the whole world we all need to grow UP and realize there is no ONE solution to the looming energy crisis wind solar bio mass etc and we all need to use less in whatever form it comes&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not just America but the whole world we all need to grow UP and realize there is no ONE solution to the looming energy crisis wind solar bio mass etc and we all need to use less in whatever form it comes<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Selena M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selena M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>until there is nothing left and no more blood to shed &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>until there is nothing left and no more blood to shed <br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: justgoodfolk</title>
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		<dc:creator>justgoodfolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enlightenment and courage.


For decades, politicians, corporate leaders and the media have subjected the world’s people to the self-serving claim that the capitalist market is the most rational means of allocating society’s resources. What is now being revealed is the basic conflict between the needs of a modern mass society and the anarchy of the profit system.
It is impossible to ascertain any truthful estimates of remaining global supplies, because the oil producing countries and energy conglomerates have vested interests in concealing their “business secrets” from the people. Entrenched corporate and political opposition has also largely squelched large-scale development of environmentally safe and sustainable alternatives, although the technology has existed, in some cases, for decades.
Supposed solutions produced within the framework of the capitalist system have only worsened the crisis. The development of bio-fuels is a case in point. Even if one were to accept the widely disputed claims that bio-fuels are a means of reducing carbon emissions, their production has only led to a massive increase in the price of corn and other crops, wreaking havoc throughout the world. The entire project has been tied to the interests of agri-business monopolies, such as ADM and Cargill, which have an overriding concern, not in ending global warming, but boosting their bottom lines.
The rational use of remaining petroleum resources and the development of genuine alternatives require an unprecedented level of international cooperation and the marshalling of the world’s technological, material and human resources. This is not possible as long as capitalism divides the globe into competing nation states, each vying for advantage over the other.
The problems facing humanity are not primarily due to the lack of resources but the irrational character of the capitalist system, which squanders vast amounts of human labor and creative potential in order to enrich an already fabulously wealthy elite. The world’s productive and natural resources must be freed from the constraints of capitalist private ownership and the nation state system and marshaled in a scientifically planned, rational and democratic fashion to meet the challenges of the 21st century.
The fight for this requires a struggle against the world’s governments, which represent the corporate and financial elite, not ordinary people. In the US, this means a political break with the Democratic Party and the building of a new political party of the working class based on a socialist and internationalist program.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jul2008/gasp-j05.shtml
The irreconcilable conflict between the profit system and the very survival of humanity finds, in a literal sense, its most noxious expression in the crisis of global warming and the natural environment. The cause of this crisis lies not, as is falsely claimed by the bourgeois media, with population growth. Nor is it the result of science and technology – whose development is critical to the advance of human civilization – but, rather, with their misuse by an irrational and obsolete economic order. The impossibility of finding a genuine solution to the increasingly critical problem of climate change and other environmental problems within the framework of the profit system is an “inconvenient truth” that bourgeois politicians – even those who profess concern for the environment – deny. All scientific evidence points to the fact that nothing short of the socialist reorganization of the world economy – in which the planetary environment would no longer be held hostage to either the profit motive or destructive nationalist interests – will achieve the reductions in greenhouse gases necessary to prevent disaster.
The solution to the spreading economic crisis and the deteriorating social position of the working class lies not in the reform of capitalism, for it is beyond reform. The crisis is of a systemic and historical character. As feudalism gave way to capitalism, capitalism must give way to socialism. The key industrial, financial, technological and natural resources must be taken out of the sphere of the capitalist market and private ownership, transferred to society and placed under the democratic supervision and control of the working class. The organization of economic life on the basis of the capitalist law of value must be replaced with its socialist reorganization on the basis of democratic economic planning, whose purpose is the fulfillment of social needs.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/sep2008/prin-s25.shtml&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enlightenment and courage.</p>
<p>For decades, politicians, corporate leaders and the media have subjected the world’s people to the self-serving claim that the capitalist market is the most rational means of allocating society’s resources. What is now being revealed is the basic conflict between the needs of a modern mass society and the anarchy of the profit system.<br />
It is impossible to ascertain any truthful estimates of remaining global supplies, because the oil producing countries and energy conglomerates have vested interests in concealing their “business secrets” from the people. Entrenched corporate and political opposition has also largely squelched large-scale development of environmentally safe and sustainable alternatives, although the technology has existed, in some cases, for decades.<br />
Supposed solutions produced within the framework of the capitalist system have only worsened the crisis. The development of bio-fuels is a case in point. Even if one were to accept the widely disputed claims that bio-fuels are a means of reducing carbon emissions, their production has only led to a massive increase in the price of corn and other crops, wreaking havoc throughout the world. The entire project has been tied to the interests of agri-business monopolies, such as ADM and Cargill, which have an overriding concern, not in ending global warming, but boosting their bottom lines.<br />
The rational use of remaining petroleum resources and the development of genuine alternatives require an unprecedented level of international cooperation and the marshalling of the world’s technological, material and human resources. This is not possible as long as capitalism divides the globe into competing nation states, each vying for advantage over the other.<br />
The problems facing humanity are not primarily due to the lack of resources but the irrational character of the capitalist system, which squanders vast amounts of human labor and creative potential in order to enrich an already fabulously wealthy elite. The world’s productive and natural resources must be freed from the constraints of capitalist private ownership and the nation state system and marshaled in a scientifically planned, rational and democratic fashion to meet the challenges of the 21st century.<br />
The fight for this requires a struggle against the world’s governments, which represent the corporate and financial elite, not ordinary people. In the US, this means a political break with the Democratic Party and the building of a new political party of the working class based on a socialist and internationalist program.<br />
<a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jul2008/gasp-j05.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jul2008/gasp-j05.shtml</a><br />
The irreconcilable conflict between the profit system and the very survival of humanity finds, in a literal sense, its most noxious expression in the crisis of global warming and the natural environment. The cause of this crisis lies not, as is falsely claimed by the bourgeois media, with population growth. Nor is it the result of science and technology – whose development is critical to the advance of human civilization – but, rather, with their misuse by an irrational and obsolete economic order. The impossibility of finding a genuine solution to the increasingly critical problem of climate change and other environmental problems within the framework of the profit system is an “inconvenient truth” that bourgeois politicians – even those who profess concern for the environment – deny. All scientific evidence points to the fact that nothing short of the socialist reorganization of the world economy – in which the planetary environment would no longer be held hostage to either the profit motive or destructive nationalist interests – will achieve the reductions in greenhouse gases necessary to prevent disaster.<br />
The solution to the spreading economic crisis and the deteriorating social position of the working class lies not in the reform of capitalism, for it is beyond reform. The crisis is of a systemic and historical character. As feudalism gave way to capitalism, capitalism must give way to socialism. The key industrial, financial, technological and natural resources must be taken out of the sphere of the capitalist market and private ownership, transferred to society and placed under the democratic supervision and control of the working class. The organization of economic life on the basis of the capitalist law of value must be replaced with its socialist reorganization on the basis of democratic economic planning, whose purpose is the fulfillment of social needs.<br />
<a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/sep2008/prin-s25.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/sep2008/prin-s25.shtml</a><br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Bigsky_52</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigsky_52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So get a degree in engineering and get to work!  I&#039;m already putting in 60 hour weeks at my lab developing alternative energy systems, you&#039;re welcome to come help out!  YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS DO NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF ACTUAL WORK!!

God, do people really think that science and technology just pop out of the ground like potatoes? 

What&#039;s funny is that this is the EXACT same argument used by some when they ask Iraq war supporters why they don&#039;t enlist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;MS ChE, PhD in 2010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So get a degree in engineering and get to work!  I&#8217;m already putting in 60 hour weeks at my lab developing alternative energy systems, you&#8217;re welcome to come help out!  YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS DO NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF ACTUAL WORK!!</p>
<p>God, do people really think that science and technology just pop out of the ground like potatoes? </p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny is that this is the EXACT same argument used by some when they ask Iraq war supporters why they don&#8217;t enlist.<br /><b>References : </b><br />MS ChE, PhD in 2010</p>
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		<title>By: not Prince Hamlet</title>
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		<dc:creator>not Prince Hamlet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re going into another Dark Ages before we start looking for alternative energy. 

It&#039;s too late. &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re going into another Dark Ages before we start looking for alternative energy. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s too late. <br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: lollipop</title>
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		<dc:creator>lollipop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My answerer was going to be that I do think most Americans know this and are willing to work toward it.  Then I saw Sophie&#039;s answer.  Sorry, Sophie, Palin only wants to drill for more oil.  That means more money for the citizens of Alaska and keeping polar bears and other animals off the endangered list.  Also, more oil is not even a temporary answer if we don&#039;t have the refineries to process it.  And nuclear plants should be considered only if the plan includes a solution for the waste.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My answerer was going to be that I do think most Americans know this and are willing to work toward it.  Then I saw Sophie&#8217;s answer.  Sorry, Sophie, Palin only wants to drill for more oil.  That means more money for the citizens of Alaska and keeping polar bears and other animals off the endangered list.  Also, more oil is not even a temporary answer if we don&#8217;t have the refineries to process it.  And nuclear plants should be considered only if the plan includes a solution for the waste.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: gottanew1</title>
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		<dc:creator>gottanew1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean we-I&#039;m gittin some bucks from the gov-not my job
O/08&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean we-I&#8217;m gittin some bucks from the gov-not my job<br />
O/08<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: McCain 08</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCain 08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well have Obama tell them, he seems to make people believe everything he says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well have Obama tell them, he seems to make people believe everything he says.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oil&#039;s down to $60 a barrel, gas is under three....nobody&#039;s going to a thing. The issue is now completely dead until prices rise again.
I&#039;m not saying that&#039;s a good idea, I&#039;m just pointing out that&#039;s how things work and the last 30 years proves that.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil&#8217;s down to $60 a barrel, gas is under three&#8230;.nobody&#8217;s going to a thing. The issue is now completely dead until prices rise again.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying that&#8217;s a good idea, I&#8217;m just pointing out that&#8217;s how things work and the last 30 years proves that.<br />
<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: happycamper</title>
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		<dc:creator>happycamper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The oil money has bought the media that is backing Obama so that is why he will not drill and why his alternative energy  cannot pan out.
If you want alternative energy which we need in order to be a free country vote for McCain.
Are you kidding McCain will drill and go for alternatives if for no other reason than what has been spent by the Arabs on this election for Obama
BTW Palin can see Russia and I wish you could too
Russia may be able to usurp Saudi Arabia&#039;s role as a primary supplier to the U.S. market. 
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3251/is_/ai_n25049780
However we still need alternatives because we will soon be ratifying the Kyoto Protocol.
But Obama will not let us do that because his backers think America is a capitalist imperialist pig, they are hard core Islamic Arab Oil interests.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oil money has bought the media that is backing Obama so that is why he will not drill and why his alternative energy  cannot pan out.<br />
If you want alternative energy which we need in order to be a free country vote for McCain.<br />
Are you kidding McCain will drill and go for alternatives if for no other reason than what has been spent by the Arabs on this election for Obama<br />
BTW Palin can see Russia and I wish you could too<br />
Russia may be able to usurp Saudi Arabia&#8217;s role as a primary supplier to the U.S. market.<br />
<a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3251/is_/ai_n25049780" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3251/is_/ai_n25049780</a><br />
However we still need alternatives because we will soon be ratifying the Kyoto Protocol.<br />
But Obama will not let us do that because his backers think America is a capitalist imperialist pig, they are hard core Islamic Arab Oil interests.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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